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OUR LATEST TUTORIAL   -   Going Too Wide - Bronwen & Scylla (7)

BASIC TRAINING

BRONWEN & SCYLLA - Highly recommended! You'll learn a lot from these totally different litter sisters.

  • Bronwen & Scylla 1. Bronwen works well from the start, while Scylla constantly attacks the sheep. - 19.0 min
  • Bronwen & Scylla 2. Scylla in the training ring. Awful at first, but she shows potential. - 11.0 min
  • Bronwen & Scylla 3. Bronwen's keen and confident but misguided, while Scylla's tail shows how nervous she is. - 22.0 min
  • Bronwen & Scylla 4. This time Bronwen's not so good, but far, far ahead of Scylla in terms of her work with sheep. - 18.0 min
  • Bronwen & Scylla 5. New sheep - and while Bronwen's erratic, some of Scylla's sheep prefer to leave! - 23.0 min
  • Bronwen & Scylla 6. Scylla's not ready for the open field, but Bronwen is - or maybe she isn't. - 20.0 min
  • Bronwen & Scylla 7. Bronwen's going too wide and loses contact with her stock. She must learn to come in. - 6.0 min

INTERMEDIATE & ADVANCED

  • The Outrun 1. A good sheepdog must have a good outrun. We show ways to get it right. - 15.0 min
  • The Outrun 2. Positioning yourself, your dog, and the sheep correctly, is the key to improving your dog's outrun. - 16.0 min
  • The Outrun 3. The "Slingshot" technique is highly successful for widening the dog's outrun - if your dog will do it! - 10.0 min
  • Eve at the Pen. A complete session teaching young Eve to get sheep into, and out of, a pen. - 36.0 min
  • Driving 1. Driving is extremely useful, and not so difficult to teach once you know how. - 7.0 min
  • Driving 2. How to use your body position to maintain some control over the dog while it learns to drive. - 7.0 min
  • Driving 3. Unashamed deception! Andy uses an "inappropriate" command, to achieve the result he needs from the dog. - 7.0 min
  • Shedding. It's useful to be able to separate sheep, and you'll need this skill if you want to compete in trials. - 5.5 min
  • Circle Sheep on Command 1. Once your dog can circle on command both ways, it graduates from trainee to skilled. - 7.0 min
  • Circle Sheep on Command 2. A training ring makes teaching your dog to circle the sheep, much easier. - 7.0 min
  • Sheepdog Trials 1. How to prepare your dog and yourself for competing in sheepdog trials. - 24.0 min
  • Sheepdog Trials 2. How trials are run. Prepare for your first trial: what to do, and what to avoid where possible. - 28.0 min
  • Sheepdog Whistle. In-depth video instruction on how to blow the notorious sheepdog whistle. - 6.8 min
  • Teaching Whistle Commands. It's not difficult to move your dog onto whistle commands - here's how. - 2.2 min
  • Sometimes Nice is Not Enough. If your dog's struggling to move stubborn stock, teach it to get tougher. - 16.0 min

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  1. HI Andy, and sorry for my bad English.

    I have a 14 months old bitch, and she is getting better. she has a great outrun and basic training. she has no fear of sheep, no problems of biting or getting between the fence and sheep.

    My problem is that there are 4 sheep, in the field where i train, an two of them are lazy or have figured out that she is not interested in them. When she does an out run, the two sheep get left behind. When the dog and all the sheep are close to me, its no problem most of the time. I can see that the dog is not interested in the two sheep, who either run off or just get left behind. and when i tell her it is not okay to let them get away, or leaving them behind, she gets confused.

    By the way i all ways tell her its not okay to leave them behind. when the two sheep run off, i tell the bitch to look back, and get them. She runs to get the sheep, but as soon as she is at the sheep who run off, she looses focus on them, and wants to heard the sheep who are at my feet. so she knows the sheep have run of, but does not want to herd them over to me. Often I have to walk and gather the sheep for her.

    I have tried to walk backwards and keep the dog behind all the sheep. But then the two sheep just stop walking, and the dog ignores that they have stopped and just lets them stand so again i end with two sheep, and not the four.

    So what can i do to get her interested in the sheep, and get her to herd them all the time and not just when they randomly move with the other sheep?

    An answer would be greatly appreciated.

    Best regards, Tóki

    1. Your English is very good, Tóki! Unfortunately, I don’t speak any language other than English.
      It’s difficult to know exactly what’s happening without seeing it, but from what you say, I suspect you are allowing the dog to continue working two of the sheep, while the other two stay behind. I know you send the dog back for the others, but if she is keen to work sheep, then she MUST bring them all.
      Make it a firm rule, that whenever one or more sheep get left behind, you insist on the dog bringing it back, or the training will not continue.
      As I’m sure you know, once the sheep learn that they can avoid the dog, they will – and it won’t be easy to stop them running off.
      I keep saying in the tutorials that the closer you are to the dog, the more control you have over it, and you have described that in your question. Get up close to the dog and insist she keeps all of the sheep together, then very gradually increase the distance. If the walking backwards exercise is going wrong, you are probably too far away from the dog. Try driving the sheep. This way you can walk with the dog and help her. If you can get her to “dart” at the sheep or even nip one, give her a command for it, and use that command whenever she needs “more gas” (as they say in the US).
      I suggest you watch “Sometimes Nice is Not Enough“. I had a very similar problem with Carew and this shows how I corrected it. (You need to be logged-in to your account for this link to work).
      It won’t be easy to teach the sheep that they must move, but you can do it if you keep trying. Please let us know how your training progresses.

      1. Thank you. Very helpful advice.

        Just so you can get a feel for the shep i am training the dog with. I live in Faroe Islands, so the sheep are faroese sheep. the sheep i have are well dogged

        Now I insist that the training will not continue if she leaves sheep behind. and when she gathers them all i praise her. but the problem is still there. and she keeps focusing on the biggest ewe. so i just stop her far behind and let she sheep walk over to me and maybe that gives her the illusion, that she is keeping them together and pushing them to me. that way the two sheep don’t break away. the thing i am most worried about is that she normally only focuses on the biggest ewe.

        I trained her yesterdy, and got a freind to film it. you can take a look at it, if you want to ( https://youtu.be/bwxTaOho6F0 ).
        in the video i push her limits some times, or maybe too often.

  2. Subject:
    circling and rate behind the stock

    Message:
    Would love a video on how to get a dog that is persistant in circling
    to finally stop and get behind the stock
    THANK YOU I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!
    Mindy

    1. Thank you for your email – and your question about a dog circling, Melinda.
      I recommend you watch the tutorials listed below

      (These links only work if you’re logged- in)
      Backwards is the way forward!
      The Training Stick
      Walking backwards is quite tedious, but it’s one of the best ways to put some polish on your dog’s work – it shows the dog where you want it to be and teaches it self discipline. Keep the dog back as you walk backwards, and the dog will learn to flank wider too.
      Good luck with the training.

  3. Hi Andy and Gill

    I have not long discovered your website but already I have learnt so much about how my 8 month bitch, Bess, needs to be trained.

    She is just about to start the very early stages of training, but she has been around the sheep for a couple of months already, she is very strong willed, both on sheep and at home, but she has a 90% recall response and knows come bye, away, stop, lie down and wait, amongst the standard commands and I’m confident she will be a great asset to me. She has always looked back for me, notices when a sheep breaks free and will go after it to get it back, she also uses her voice when she comes across a sheep who wont move!

    High spirits comes with erratic chasing, selective hearing and the occasional gripping but although I correct her I am still aware she is a pup still and these moments will occur frequently whilst she is young!

    I am very pleased to have found your site as I was reluctant to let her run with other collies as I don’t want her to pick up any bad habits they may have. Plus the collies round here are not trained to the standard I wish for Bess to be. I was told I would have my work cut out to train her myself without a dog for her to follow and this concerned me that I would waste a good dog, but your videos have filled me with confidence and I cannot wait to make a proper start with her!

    Thank you again

    Jodi

    1. Thank you for your kind words, Jodi. I’m glad you find the website useful for training Bess. It’s not a good idea to train a dog by letting it run with others because the trainee dog will learn the bad habits of the older dogs as well as the good points. Believe in your dog, be firm but patient, and I’m sure you’ll succeed.
      Please let us know how you get on.

  4. Hi andy,
    After practicing for weeks on flanking and droving me and my young bitch are approaching driving. She starts to get the idea walking straight in front of me and I’m gradually increasing distance between me and the dog. As a matter of fact, approaching driving, I found out how critical it is to have a very good stop and recall. Which my dog did not have. Or not enough though. The matters covered in your videos are great. I wish I could also find some material on teaching basic obedience commands, which are foundamental stuff in the area of sheepworking. There is a lot of stuff on the net but nothing matching your approach.
    Daniele

    1. It’s very important for the dog to get off to a good start, Daniele – but it’s never too late to get things right later on (it just takes a little longer as the dog gets older).
      There’s quite a lot of information on this subject in our “First Steps in Border Collie Sheepdog Training” DVDs. I recommend you watch those to see where you’re going wrong.
      One thing springs to mind though – we are learning all the time here, and since we made “First Steps” (several years ago now) we’ve learned the value of lead training. Away from the sheep, it’s excellent practice to teach the dog to walk PROPERLY on a lead. If you can achieve this, the dog will be far easier to train, because by walking with the lead slack (as I said – away from sheep) the dog is fully accepting that you are the leader. If it’s pulling, it has not, and a dog that has not accepted you as its leader is not going to respect your wishes if they don’t coincide with its own.
      On “First Steps” you’ll see me teaching the dogs to “Stay Close” when we’re out walking. This is even more advanced than lead training, and I wouldn’t expect most trainers to have the patience to do it – but if you can, again, it does wonders for the dog’s respect of you.

  5. Hi Andy, I attended one of your courses in the summer and have made good (I think) progress with Clover over the last few weeks. She now can hold a few sheep in a small area and knows her flank commands and this is what I have been focusing on. She is though far too close to the sheep but I was hoping to leave this issue until I think she is fully capable with the flank commands. My concern however is that I am storing up or adding to a problem later by allowing her to work so close to the sheep.

    Your view would really be appreciated, Keith

    1. By allowing the dog to continue to work too close to the sheep, you are indeed storing up problems which will be harder to correct later. I urge you to widen Clover out at your earliest opportunity. The longer she’s allowed to get away with it, the more entrenched “this is how we do it” will be, in her mind.
      Driving is advanced work. It’s hard enough to get some dogs to flank wide enough when they’re driving, even when they’ve learned to flank well at other times, so it’s clearly better to teach ALL the basics before you move on to more advanced work.
      Teach the dog to WALK before you try to teach it to RUN!

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