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Kelpie or Collie Blog. Which is the better sheepdog, a border collie or an Australian kelpie? Training comparison between a WK and a BC herding dog. Border collie puppy Mossie and working Kelpie Red

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Kelpie v Border Collie Sheepdog
Which will be the better sheepdog - Kelpie Red or Collie Mossie.

Working Kelpie sheepdogs are now in common use throughout the UK
and there's a healthy debate over which makes the best sheepdog.

To shed some light on the matter for ourselves, we decided to train a Kelpie along with a Border Collie.

Before we could start our training comparison between a Kelpie and a Border Collie, we wanted to find a Kelpie puppy with a similar high work drive to our home bred pup Mossie. Click the "Next item" to find out what happened.

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Working Kelpie
Red

Working Kelpie puppy

We chose Red because he's from excellent working parents. Red was born on a farm in Brecon (South Wales, UK) in mid April 2010. Both his parents work daily on the farm. One of ten puppies in the litter, Red was the last pup to leave the farm after being kept back as a possible replacement sheepdog for the flock.

Working Border Collie
Mossie

Working Border Collie puppy

Mossie was born on the 29th January 2010 here at Kings Green. Her parents are our own working sheepdogs, Jill and Eli - two of our favourite dogs with wonderful temperaments and a tremendous work drive. Eli in particular is extremely kind to other dogs and puppies.

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Red's character.

Red has an extremely high drive. He travelled home perfectly during the 100 minute journey, sleeping most of the time. Obviously, when he arrived, he was a little cautious but still playful and with good appetite.

When introduced to the other (17) dogs, he was keen to play but a little worried when another dog rushed towards him. He quickly learned to climb onto the picnic table and use it as a refuge.

When the dogs were put away for the night, Red was not happy. He barked constantly, knocked his feed and water bowls over and attempted to climb over the retaining mesh in his pen.

Eventually the din stopped, so we went to check that he was OK before leaving him for the night. As soon as his pen door opened a tiny bit, Red tried repeatedly to barge out and became noisy again. He was obviously perfectly alright (if a little upset) so we left him overnight. There was some barking for a while but Red soon settled down and we were surprised to be able to enjoy a peaceful first night.

Summary.
Red is nice dog, we like him. He's very determined to get his way, especially when it comes to sheep but he's showing signs of being a quick learner.

Mossie's character.

Mossie's a survivor of a dreadful accident. For some reason, her mother (Jill) loves to carry heavy objects around so with safety in mind, when her last litter was born we put a very heavy concrete water bowl in her pen. Lactating bitches need plenty of clean water but unfortunately, the bowl wasn't heavy enough. The day after the puppies were born, Jill somehow carried the bowl into the bedding area and dropped it on her puppies.

Only two of the eight pups survived. One was promised to a conservationist in the south of England. The other is Mossie.

Mossie's parents Jill and Eli, are all there when it comes to being tough. Eli's only a youngster himself but he's been hard to train because of his determination. Even from a young puppy, Eli would get in amongst the sheep at the slightest opportunity. Now, he's developing into a superb sheepdog.

From the day she started to crawl around, Mossie convinced us she was not just your ordinary pup. Very tough in all respects but likeable and eager to please. She's always determined to be where the action is.

Summary.
Mossie's a lovely pup. We're very fond of her. Despite being strong willed and quite often noisy (like her dad) she's a quick learner and should make an excellent, powerful sheepdog.

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20th July 2010

Red's work.

Australian Kelpie puppy chasing sheep

We dont normally allow a pup of Red's age to go near sheep because a threatening sheep can permanently ruin a dog's confidence, but when we collected Red, he'd already been to sheep.

The farmer (Meirion) demonstrated this (pic above) and we could see that Red's fast, aggressive approach didn't give the sheep time to do anything but run away. At just twelve weeks, he'll run at a small flock of sheep, barking and trying to bite them.

The same happened with our own sheep the next day!

Summary.
It's really far too early to form any sensible opinon. Poor Red's only been here a couple of days but he's definitely got what we were looking for. He's very determined indeed and if anything, a little too aggressive with sheep for our liking. We're sure that will moderate as he gets older and more relaxed.

Mossie's work.

Border Collie puppy working sheep

Suffice to say that since she was 14 weeks old, Mossie has made it her duty to sneak away and bring the sheep to us!

This is not something we recommend for a dog so young, and in fact we have now taught her not to do it, but as a reward for this, she gets regular sessions where she can work the sheep in a controlled situation.

Summary.
Mossie's just five and a half months old now and although she's very confident with sheep, she'll stop on command and flank both ways freely.

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24th July 2010

Red's progress.

Australian Kelpie sheepdog puppy playing with an older Border Collie

This picture will tell you how Red's settling in! He's playing with Mossie - ten weeks older, and much larger.

Red was never going to be short of confidence but his first few days here were naturally cautious. Now, he's quite full of himself and making his mark.

Initially, his barking increased along with his confidence but he's learned it brings him no result and he's quieter now..

Summary.
We're very pleased with Red. He's been to sheep once and we're careful he doesn't get near any aggressive sheep.

Mossie's progress.

Border collie puppy Mossie

At just under 6 months of age, Mossie's turning into a lovely young dog.

She's growing in confidence and obedience every day. There's no rush to get her trained on sheep (she's still very young).

Summary.
Mossie continues to be a delight to us. She's naturally obedient, eager to please, and yet really enjoys herself along the way.

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4th August 2010

Red's continued improvement.

Kelpie Red's growing up

Red's finding his feet now. He's mixing with all the dogs and is not afraid of any of them despite some quite rough playing.

At last he's trotting happily into his pen (rather than having to be carried in every time) and when he's let out in the morning, he'll wait until he's told to come out, rather than barging out as he did previously.

We've noticed that Red waits by the door of his pen to be let out, whereas collies always wait at the point where they get the best view of the person letting them out.

Summary.
Continued improvement from Red. He's very bright, intelligent and brave.

Mossie's growing fast!

Mossie with a football

Now approaching seven months of age, Mossie's growing fast. This is a very interesting stage with collies. At the moment, her back legs are very long, and her head seems very small for her body. This is perfectly normal as various parts of the body seem to grow in turn, rather than together.

Summary.
Growing fast, very well behaved and exceptionally pretty - what a lovely puppy!

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